time wasting jet cars!!!

[jetcarhater]

who else hates the time wasting jet cars at heathcote?? why should we pay $50 entry for test and tune on the last friday night for racing to start at 6pm then stop at 7pm for a tea break then start after tea with the stupid jetcars!!!


surely the owner could waste his own time and fuel on a tuesday arvo!!!

wot ya THINK ?????

[Big_Burnouts]

Seen one seen em all imo, although the little kid's like them. Not sure how many kid's are at Heathcote though.

[greenhj]

theres a 20 page bitch thread on ls1.com why not go over there and cry with them?

FWIW, i dont enjoy the jet cars either, but if i owned a few, and owned a racetrack, id damn well use them whenever i pleased.

you can run your dragstrip however you want jetcarhater:p

[revtec426]

If ya don't like it don't fucken go ! Better yet go to some other track .
Why don't you have some balls and speak to Russell in person instead of bagging him on this forum ya weak pricks ! Its his track he can do what ever he likes .

[LC-434]

Well its a waste of time prepping a track , then spraying Kerosine all over it isnt it, no wonder why cars were getting loose at half track....But its his track and he does what he wants.....

[jetcarhater]

If ya don't like it don't fucken go ! Better yet go to some other track .
Why don't you have some balls and speak to Russell in person instead of bagging him on this forum ya weak pricks ! Its his track he can do what ever he likes . I no its his track and he can do what ever he wants but if i pay to race i want to race not watch jet cars, how about you??? or do you just sit on the hill??

[jetcarhater]

Well its a waste of time prepping a track , then spraying Kerosine all over it isnt it, no wonder why cars were getting loose at half track....But its his track and he does what he wants.....

could not agree more!!!

[LC-434]

who else hates the time wasting jet cars at heathcote?? why should we pay $50 entry for test and tune on the last friday night for racing to start at 6pm then stop at 7pm for a tea break then start after tea with the stupid jetcars!!!


surely the owner could waste his own time and fuel on a tuesday arvo!!!

wot ya THINK ?????

I agree here, 1 hr of racing then a tea break, why didnt they have tea before they started, not very smart......
But theres no where else to race is there....

[Ballsy1]

Haha jetcarhater, go cut some wood mate.;)

[littlebear]

haha jetcarhater, go cut some wood mate.;)

ive got wood

[jetcarhater]

Q. wots the difference between wilby and heathcote????

A. there is no time wasting jet cars at wilby

[geordo]

At the temperature at what those engines burn, do u really think its leaving shit all over the track?

[littlebear]

dunno but something definately woz wrong mid track onwards

[revtec426]

I no its his track and he can do what ever he wants but if i pay to race i want to race not watch jet cars, how about you??? or do you just sit on the hill??

I pay my money to race and if I've got a problem I speak to the bloke in person .
I don't enjoy junior dragster or super gas but I don't winge like a little bitch

Why don't you stick to playing dungeons and dragons with you're imaginary friends ya tosser :cool:

[jetcarhater]

lets all kneel in the presence of sir drag daddy revtec426

[jetcarhater]

I pay my money to race and if I've got a problem I speak to the bloke in person .
I don't enjoy junior dragster or super gas but I don't winge like a little bitch

Why don't you stick to playing dungeons and dragons with you're imaginary friends ya tosser :cool:

all hail drag daddy revtec426

[techman]

Jet cars will leave a light film on the track of whatever fuel they are burning.Back in the 90's when we used to get jet cars at Calder the track crew would always drag the track and respray with vht each time they ran.
Martin

[LC-434]

Jet cars will leave a light film on the track of whatever fuel they are burning.Back in the 90's when we used to get jet cars at Calder the track crew would always drag the track and respray with vht each time they ran.
Martin

There you go............!

[Ballsy1]

It is a good point, why does the owner of the track need to take up time running his car when payed up racers are sitting in the pits waiting?:confused:

[oRiTe BYe]

It is a good point, why does the owner of the track need to take up time running his car when payed up racers are sitting in the pits waiting?:confused:

i beleive he wasnt bagging russel or the track.. i beleive the guy has a valid point. Even at Calder, the burnout pad is a waste of time and fcukin stupid. You want big hp cars to turn up, pay the $$, sit there whilst the track temp drops all because some knob in his vn wants to do a skid.. yay.

Same goes for Heathcote - if your going to demo a jet car, do it last in the night where your not taking up time of the races who are there to race, not watch a jetcar making popping and farting noises.

[jetcarhater]

Jet cars will leave a light film on the track of whatever fuel they are burning.Back in the 90's when we used to get jet cars at Calder the track crew would always drag the track and respray with vht each time they ran.
Martin

and whats even worse is he then turns around and come back up the track then on the back off puts fuel all over the start line

[jetcarhater]

i beleive he wasnt bagging russel or the track.. i beleive the guy has a valid point. Even at Calder, the burnout pad is a waste of time and fcukin stupid. You want big hp cars to turn up, pay the $$, sit there whilst the track temp drops all because some knob in his vn wants to do a skid.. yay.

Same goes for Heathcote - if your going to demo a jet car, do it last in the night where your not taking up time of the races who are there to race, not watch a jetcar making popping and farting noises.

This was my piont, wasnt bagging russel or the track just the time that is wasted with the jet cars.

[revtec426]

If people think that jet cars spray fuel all over the track then why is it that the cars use roughly 90 litres of fuel per pass at approx 1200 degrees pushing 30,000 cubic feet of air per second @ 6000 pounds of thrust and the jet dryer uses 120 litres of fuel blowing directly down onto the track .
On sunday after a sprinkle of rain Russell dried the track with the track dryer and Martin Placko ran 1st up running a personal best in the green xy superplus ute .
So does that mean he is a hell of a driver or has a personal death wish :rolleyes:
I'm no expert on the subject but if they leave a residue all over the track as claimed then wouldn't the Australian Civil Aviation Safety Aurthority ban all jet planes to stop all the other planes from slipping off the runways ?
As i said before if people have a problem with Heathcote or Russell and his jet cars speak to him directly !

[ANK]

jet cars are not my thing but im sure the kids love them and i guess its a kick driving them but i cant help look at the rx7 and think what a waste of a car

[techman]

If people think that jet cars spray fuel all over the track then why is it that the cars use roughly 90 litres of fuel per pass at approx 1200 degrees pushing 30,000 cubic feet of air per second @ 6000 pounds of thrust and the jet dryer uses 120 litres of fuel blowing directly down onto the track .
On sunday after a sprinkle of rain Russell dried the track with the track dryer and Martin Placko ran 1st up running a personal best in the green xy superplus ute .
So does that mean he is a hell of a driver or has a personal death wish :rolleyes:
I'm no expert on the subject but if they leave a residue all over the track as claimed then wouldn't the Australian Civil Aviation Safety Aurthority ban all jet planes to stop all the other planes from slipping off the runways ?
As i said before if people have a problem with Heathcote or Russell and his jet cars speak to him directly !
Planes use jet fuel not kero or diesel

[fullboost]

I've never seen anyone complain when Russell uses the Jet dryer on the track and that is directed pointing at the ground? He used it yesterday as well.

I know the RX7 uses the higher grade JetA1 fuel, not diesel like the jet dryer. It seems as though people will complain aobut anything these days...

[WLD-355]

jetcars are good to watch racing each other down the track like how they used to at the nationals but the jetcars that are just there for show to blow some flames out while they go up and down the track is pretty shit

[jetcarhater]

I've never seen anyone complain when Russell uses the Jet dryer on the track and that is directed pointing at the ground? He used it yesterday as well.

I know the RX7 uses the higher grade JetA1 fuel, not diesel like the jet dryer. It seems as though people will complain aobut anything these days...

The complaint was the time the jet cars waste.
It seems to me that not many of the racers like payin to race then have wate while the owner of the track has his fun!!, Startin to look like another track owner who dosent listen to the racers and dose what he wants, and we cant race there now can we!!!!!

[pappabear]

are you THE professsor on jet car studies OR WHAT!!!

[yogi351]

I've used a jet dryer a few times before, and basically you can use any fuel that burns through them, just depends on what the budget is or what fuel is available. We used to put unleaded through the jet to dry the track, as it doesnt leave a greasy residue like diesel or kerosene....

[pappabear]

if revtec 426 dont like junior dragsters or super gas he proberly rides a bike and thinks it is quick with the wind blowing through her hair .... there like watching paint dry!

[pappabear]

ive got wood
so do you cut wood or cut people's grass littlebear?

[naughts]

Nice first three posts mate. Go annoy somewhere else!!!

[revtec426]

if revtec 426 dont like junior dragsters or super gas he proberly rides a bike and thinks it is quick with the wind blowing through her hair .... there like watching paint dry!

Well Mr Bear you already know I ride a bike Buell / Sportster 10.88 @123
So what does that have to do with anything ?
There's plenty of quick bikes out there I couldn't give a fuck if ya don't like em
I wish you blokes from Geelong would stop changing your names :cool:
PM me and we can talk further about it if you like ?

[CHRISCHINN]

I am not entering any arguements to do with the jet cars. I have respect for russell and the heathcote staff and track! But i think that there were issues with the track i am assuming from the fuel that is dumped from the jets but not sure. All i know is that my car setup was untouched from racing in sydney and calder and the car was bullet straight. On my first run i hit top gear and got to about half track and 6000rpm before the engine pinged off the limiter at 7900 due to unloading the tyres. On the second run i crossed the finish line sideways at over 150mph after a skatey run all the way down the track. I want to race at the Ford nationals on may 30th but at the same time dont want to risk hurting myself or damaging the car....i dont know if there was a problem with the track or not but i checked the rear end of the car on the sunday after and all is fine so i cant explain the reasons why? Maybe a good load of heat from the dryer and some VHT down the track might be the go after the jets have run!!!

[mikethejet]

It is a good point, why does the owner of the track need to take up time running his car when payed up racers are sitting in the pits waiting?:confused:
well I hope you understand that he might be doing this to get more spectators in to watch you guys AND GALS race and keep this sport going. Bums in seats keep your fees lower (no spectators, prices must rise) so I have seen the effect off riseing cost and I have seen that cost of raceing stay steady for a long time due to the attempt By The Owner to get more bums in seats even when it costs him over 800lt of fuel for the weekend at no cost to you

[jetcarhater]

well I hope you understand that he might be doing this to get more spectators in to watch you guys AND GALS race and keep this sport going. Bums in seats keep your fees lower (no spectators, prices must rise) so I have seen the effect off riseing cost and I have seen that cost of raceing stay steady for a long time due to the attempt By The Owner to get more bums in seats even when it costs him over 800lt of fuel for the weekend at no cost to you

Do you think that instead of buying 800ltr's of jet fuel maybe put that in to track prep to make it better which in turn brings better and faster cars and bigger crowds, im not to sure if you have been in the pits or on the hill when the jet cars come out and heard most peopel wish they werent there!!!!.

[stevevh]

Jet cars have no place at a test and tune. Especially during the day when you can't see the flames it's a great waste of time...

Let's face it its Russell's track and he does what he wants but I agree that you've seen them once you've seen them all.

Chris my car did the same 1/2 track onwards. Not worth it mate. Store it till some decent tracks open up. Till then Heathcote is perfect for 10 sec high 9 sec type cars.. No offence Russell or Joanne.

P.S: No one has mentioned the dust? $100K race cars with the best of everything and one outing at Heathcote and you spend 3 months detailing and removing dust. Let alone mozzies when you race at night...

[littlebear]

jet cars have no place at a test and tune. Especially during the day when you can't see the flames it's a great waste of time...

Let's face it its russell's track and he does what he wants but i agree that you've seen them once you've seen them all.

Chris my car did the same 1/2 track onwards. Not worth it mate. Store it till some decent tracks open up. Till then heathcote is perfect for 10 sec high 9 sec type cars.. No offence russell or joanne.

P.s: No one has mentioned the dust? $100k race cars with the best of everything and one outing at heathcote and you spend 3 months detailing and removing dust. Let alone mozzies when you race at night...

bring on da aerogaurd

[Ballsy1]

well I hope you understand that he might be doing this to get more spectators in to watch you guys AND GALS race and keep this sport going. Bums in seats keep your fees lower (no spectators, prices must rise) so I have seen the effect off riseing cost and I have seen that cost of raceing stay steady for a long time due to the attempt By The Owner to get more bums in seats even when it costs him over 800lt of fuel for the weekend at no cost to you

If that was the case, why not run it over the HOUR long tea break?

[lenny/kerm]

if the jet cars and van were to be run over the tea break, that would defeat the purpose of having a tea break as the staff would have to continue to work whilst the jet cars ran. those guys are intitled to their break.
the track gets spayed with traction compound after lunch and tea break.

[Al Bundy]

what would u no willby is a goat track were they chase sheep and cows off the track b4they race plus they dont let big supercharged cars race they think there a waste ov time so i was told

[Al Bundy]

thats ok we dont mind we do in 4 the fun ov it we all get a buzz out ov what eva cars vans bikes even trucks come to drag race and yes the track gets sprayed at tea or lunch breaks because i do it

[Al Bundy]

bring on da aerogaurd
your car wouldnt go that fast to get mozzie on it so if u dont wana clean it from dust and mozzies dont race there we wont miss u

[Al Bundy]

how the fuck ru mr naughts theres a lot ov people out there that like to hang shit maybe they should stop and think about 4awile if there was no drags at heathcote were else would they go calder and get 1 run in or ballarat race on eight mile

[Al Bundy]

hi naughts hav u got daves mobile number from dunolly i didnt get it of him its al my mobile is 0438254494 thanks cu at drags m8

[Al Bundy]

im with u revtec if tey dont like it y dont they just fuck off and race some were else we wont miss them he is easy person to talk to if u have a problem talk to him about

[jetcarhater]

thats ok we dont mind we do in 4 the fun ov it we all get a buzz out ov what eva cars vans bikes even trucks come to drag race and yes the track gets sprayed at tea or lunch breaks because i do it

Well look at you go!!!
I must say its a good job you do spraying the track.....

[jetcarhater]

im with u revtec if tey dont like it y dont they just fuck off and race some were else we wont miss them he is easy person to talk to if u have a problem talk to him about

Im going to hire a dyno for 8 hours but the owner is going to use it for 3hours but i paid for 8hours but "thats ok he owns it he can do what ever he wants"

And if i wanted to see a fucking JET i'd go to a fucking AIRPORT!!!!!!!!

[Ballsy1]

if the jet cars and van were to be run over the tea break, that would defeat the purpose of having a tea break as the staff would have to continue to work whilst the jet cars ran. those guys are intitled to their break.
the track gets spayed with traction compound after lunch and tea break.

How long does it take to eat a steak sanger?

[Ballsy1]

Im going to hire a dyno for 8 hours but the owner is going to use it for 3hours but i paid for 8hours but "thats ok he owns it he can do what ever he wants"

And if i wanted to see a fucking JET i'd go to a fucking AIRPORT!!!!!!!!

Im with you mate. I would have thought the test and tune days were run for the racers that dont have access to a dragstrip on a daily basis. And they pay a fair price for that.
Surely the owner doesnt need to be told the guys in the pits are keen to race.

[CHRISCHINN]

Russell can do whatever he wants whenever he wants at HIS track! That is the way it is, he loves his jets. I will be racing at the ford nationals but it would be nice to know if there was an issue with the track or not, so i will call and get it from the horses mouth. Having a go at russell aint gonna change anything, jets are his passion just like big cars and big V8's is mine!!

[revtec426]

Im going to hire a dyno for 8 hours but the owner is going to use it for 3hours but i paid for 8hours but "thats ok he owns it he can do what ever he wants"

And if i wanted to see a fucking JET i'd go to a fucking AIRPORT!!!!!!!!

So scooter have you actually rang the bloke and expressed your views ?
No let me guess you'd rather carry one behind your key board :mad:
Well stay right where you are playing dungeons and dragons with your special imaginary friend.
Your argument is pathetic much like yourself
Ever hired a dyno sport ? :rolleyes: How many passes did you actually do at the meeting or where YOU sitting up on the hill ?
Do yourself a favor and fuckoff to Wilby or wherever !

[naughts]

Well said Chris.
See you at the Ford Nats.

[jetcarhater]

Russell can do whatever he wants whenever he wants at HIS track! That is the way it is, he loves his jets. I will be racing at the ford nationals but it would be nice to know if there was an issue with the track or not, so i will call and get it from the horses mouth. Having a go at russell aint gonna change anything, jets are his passion just like big cars and big V8's is mine!!

Why dont he take the jets over to the speedway while the drags keep going, and see how many go and watch!!!!

[jetcarhater]

Im going to hire a dyno for 8 hours but the owner is going to use it for 3hours but i paid for 8hours but "thats ok he owns it he can do what ever he wants"

And if i wanted to see a fucking JET i'd go to a fucking AIRPORT!!!!!!!!

So scooter have you actually rang the bloke and expressed your views ?
No let me guess you'd rather carry one behind your key board :mad:
Well stay right where you are playing dungeons and dragons with your special imaginary friend.
Your argument is pathetic much like yourself
Ever hired a dyno sport ? :rolleyes: How many passes did you actually do at the meeting or where YOU sitting up on the hill ?
Do yourself a favor and fuckoff to Wilby or wherever !

Well MR Revtec cant you thing of anythink else to say other than "dungeons dragons its getin old.

When you did your 10.88 did you have a pillion or did you face the 123mph alone bravehart!!!!!!

[littlebear]

waz a joke wasnt directed at anyone 9.02 153mph with a small block asspirated those mozzys are quick little suckers!

[revtec426]

Well MR Revtec cant you thing of anythink else to say other than "dungeons dragons its getin old.

When you did your 10.88 did you have a pillion or did you face the 123mph alone bravehart!!!!!!

So skippy how fast are you and how many runs did you miss out on because of the jet cars ? I'd be happy to give you Russell's phone number or better yet I'll be at heathcote on the 10th why don't you come and say hello:p

[revtec426]

waz a joke wasnt directed at anyone 9.02 153mph with a small block asspirated those mozzys are quick little suckers!

Welcome MICK BRODY 9.02 @ 153.56 440ci CHEV LJ TORANA APSA Mod Street :D

[revtec426]

Why dont he take the jets over to the speedway while the drags keep going, and see how many go and watch!!!!

Why don't you stand behind one
that way we can all watch and get a giggle out of it :rolleyes:

[revtec426]

very tru leave jet engines for planes there shit why wast money on a jet car wen u can build a superchared outlaw for the same money and go faster and with pistons thers one at heathcote that a rx7 wat a wast

Another fuckin brain surgeon :rolleyes:

[revtec426]

you suck russells wanga because heathcoate dose not wip the track after like willowbank that trak get stiky shit put all over it so tyres dont spin

Stick to building your wagon and get mummy to spell the big words for you
:D

[dragin master 69]

well well well rnt we all a cheery bunch, let me just say that heathcote is a
gr8 track but it could be much much better. Yes i am saying that the dam jet cars should be left at tulamarine and not let distroy the track for the majority seriouse racers that have travled a long way to race then have to listen to popping and farting that i could see and hear at the local retirement vilage. as for u rev tec426 u can belt ya 12sec stump pullin water pump right up ur bum bum i would rather ride a 300kg aboriginal hooker at least she would sound better.bout time ya got a real bike WITH A FUEL TANK and neck up ya parrit yes russell owns the track and can do what he wants but u did say puttin bums in seats well no cars = no racing = no track now who is the brain surgen
peace

[The Gronk]

ballsy1 / jetcarhater - it is against the forum rules to have more than one login name champ, so choose who you want your online persona to be and let the moderator/admin team know so they can delete the one you dont choose, and do it quick, otherwise both will be deleted and banned from accessing the site.

and dont go quoting yourself and agreeing with yourself in future, you'll just come off looking like a stooge to the people who can see your IP address. (if you dont know what an IP address is, or how it uniquely identifies you/your internet connection, then google it.)

[turbo4me]

leave the jet cars alone, there 13/14 seconds beast, Joking, f**k then off, last time at Calder they blow shit in my and my mates eyes

[jakey boy]

ballsy1 / jetcarhater - it is against the forum rules to have more than one login name champ, so choose who you want your online persona to be and let the moderator/admin team know so they can delete the one you dont choose, and do it quick, otherwise both will be deleted and banned from accessing the site.

and dont go quoting yourself and agreeing with yourself in future, you'll just come off looking like a stooge to the people who can see your IP address. (if you dont know what an IP address is, or how it uniquely identifies you/your internet connection, then google it.)

GRONK(1) VS ballsy1/jetcarhater: (0)
:D:D:D:D:D

[lenny/kerm]

traction compound is placed down after every break julian vlturbo. so how about you shut your mouth and stop talking about shit it would seem obvious that you have no idea about the preparation that is put into the heathcote track

[lenny/kerm]

during the breaks the track is bein re-preped as well as the staff having a break. some staff continue to work through their break anyway. without the staff at heathcote their wouldn't be a track, simple as that!

[lenny/kerm]

different strokes for different folks. i think everyone knows that, some people like turbos some like supercharged outlaws, some like bikes, and some like jet cars. russel just so happens to like jet cars, get over it. they entertain along with all the other cars. if people didn't find them entertaining then why does most of the crowd run to the fence when he starts them up??!!

[ocs289]

Wooow reading this thread made me have to post sorry but had to be done.

This young 10 yr old kid jullian stick to www.jullianvlturbo.com.au if you wanna talk like that
Where not interested in what you have to say ok.
Get it?
or dont you understand?
Do you need some help because i can tutor you if you really need the help?

Now the jetcars thats something to split the day up i think, theres nothing wrong with them and also its not really taking much time away from the event itself.

people i think just needa be paitient i think, come on guys
They are giving you a place to race if you dont like it it's pretty simple then dont go.

revtec dont worry this is just forum land!

[Az']

I don't think personal attacks are going to get us anywhere, just like jumping on your soapbox and telling those with a lesser intelligence than yourself that their opioning is not valid. I don't care much for jet cars and i would probably prefer they don't race at a test and tune, I don't hold the issue in such high regard as to call Russell and tell him about it, does that make me a keyboard warrior as well? I don't have an issue with Russell racing his own cars amongst the rest of us but i think perhaps he could wait until the end of the day, this way the people who want to watch the jetcars can hang around and watch, those who don't can pack up their car and trailer and make a move. This would also eliminate the track condition debate.

[lenny/kerm]

i dont hear jet car hater complaining when russel uses 800-1000 lts of fuel to dry the track after its rained, and i don't hear anyone doubting the saftey of the track after he does it. if russel didnt know what he was doing he wouldnt have had the track running so long, he runs a good track and good events.

[The Gronk]

YAWN. got a problem, email or call heathcote park raceway.

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