SSN8R - Supercharged, Intercooled, C.O.M.E. 355cui Stroker 5.8L VN SS in the BUILD

[SSN8R]

http://members.optusnet.com.au/elizabeth-a/ssn8r_portrait1.gif
1991 Series II Atlas Grey VN SS
Built & Tuning by CVE Performance; Paul Cibotto


- C.O.M.E Racing 355ci 5.8L nodular cast iron 3.484" stroker crankshaft
- VT Roller block - Hot tanked, R & R Cam bearings, Line honed main tunnels, 2 bolt mains, 2 bolt main stud kit, Bore & torque plate hone, deck block to square, Brass welch plugs
- Keith Black KB135 Signiature series 390 alloy modified hypereutectic pistons, T6 heat treated, additional High performance ceramic coatings on crown, dry film coat on skirts. .030" thou bore oversize,
- 4340 forged steel 5.7" "I" beam conrods with ARP bolts fully machined & powerstroked rod hone to under .0002" tolerance
- 9:1 compression ratio
- Bottom end work Professionally Balanced & blueprinted by C.O.M.E. Racing & CVE Performance
- Hastings piston rings
- King bearings
- Crow Guide plates
- Crow hardened pushrods 8.300" thou
- C.O.M.E. Racing VN Heads worked, flowed to 500hp bracketmaster, bronze guides, porting & polished, full valve job, surfaced and chambers cc'd, bigger dual coil springs and chrome moly retainers
- Rollmaster Double row timing chain kit
- C.O.M.E. Racing Alloy Roller rockers 7/16” 1.6:1 ratio
- ARP Rocker studs & posilocks
- C.O.M.E. Racing CSBR 523 Streetmaster hydraulic roller camshaft
- C.O.M.E. Racing Twin throttle inlet manifold + strengthened throttle inlet, domed cast top plate with billet throttle.
- Precision parts full steel racing harmonic balancer
- MSD Blaster II Ignition coil
- 9mm eagle ignition leads
- VT Distributor
- SS Group A Fuel Rails with braiding
- Kalmaker street pro 3 real-time engine management/ecu
- JP High volume oil pump
- Rebuilt, strengthened T5 gear box
- Bigger + Stronger EXEDY Clutch to hold 500+ hp
- Belt-driven centrifugal Powerdyne Supercharger 6.5 pounds boost
- Advanced 600x300x100 (4" Core) double bar & plate stainless intercooler
- 3" Mandrel bend Stainless steel & polished piping custom fabricated
- Turbosmart type III MEGASONIC blow off valve
- Turbosmart 3" high performance silicone joiners and hoses with high pressure performance clamps
- Turbosmart silicone vacuum hoses
- Siemans 63lb Deka Injectors custom spray pattern
- Bosch 044 Fuel pump
- Turbosmart T-Reg pro FPR1200 adjustable fuel pressure regulator
- Performance Oil catch can
- Rebuilt Borg warner with 3:45 diff gears in the ass end
- Long range highway tank
- Pioneer MP3/CD deck
- 4 Subs, 4 Amps, Tweeters, 6x9's
- 19" CV8 Monaro rims
- Professionally Lowered
- Upgraded suspension, bars all around
- K-Mac front end adjustable Camber & Caster suspension
- Modified front bar to suit intercooler
- Pacemaker headers PH5000D suit Twin cat system,
- Dual 2.5" strainless straight pipes into 2 hot dogs, Turbo genie rear resonator
- Dual Exhaust tip dump
- Autometer Monsta tacho
- Autometer Boost gauge
- Autometer Oil pressure gauge
- Momo steering wheel
- SS Group A interior
- AU Twin thermo fan setup

Power: 342.3rwkw safe tune

[SLR.74]

have you got any pics of the tools you will be using lol
(joke) good luck with the build

[SSN8R]

have you got any pics of the tools you will be using lol
(joke) good luck with the build
hehe nah man no tools bro gona use strong 3M tape haha jk
cheers bro

[TUFFZJ]

look's tuff man. how much HP?

[SSN8R]

look's tuff man. how much HP?
thanks man
0 hp atm coz its not build yet lol.
we will know very soon when shes built, im trying to keep it cool and leash the info and results once its built and 100% running which should be in no more than 1 month..

[DEAN STRATTON]

my grandma wants too run you when its on the road her she reckons her old a-kimberly would give it a good run !!:eek:

[SSN8R]

little updates

engine is built

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[jamfrank]

with the info quoted id almost bet money it will have around 320 rear wheel kilowats.... good luck with it

[da chief]

nice old ss mate, i had 1 back home it was a worked 308 and it went hard now i seen your car have to find me 1 lol.

[SSN8R]

thanks guys, jamfrank yeah aiming for around 320 anyways, but anymore will be just a bonus bro

da chief, yeah atlas grey vn ss's are best man, regardless of mods or power they are they look beefed up !!

[Ryan_04]

awsome VN SS dude!

always been a fan of it n it keeps gettin better

i would love to do a 5.0L conversion for my VS stato instead of selling it off.

neway keep us posted!!

[sexyty]

well butter my muffins and call me betty crocker......lol that is and going to be one MENTAL vn ss..how big is the intake pipe?:confused: but best of luck with the power....:)

[SSN8R]

thanks ryan, sexyty
yeah nothing beats the sound and feeling of a 5ltr, the note of the exhaust of the 5.0 with a decent exhaust just makes u frof hehe

sexyty the intake on the manifold?? it is 3" which is the same with my intercooler piping should all fit ok

prepped the car itself today getting it ready to be sent off to engine builder this week


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epa exhaust
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epa exhaust out



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degreasing shit here
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the lumpy exhaust joine flanges getting a clean up aswell as cat converter ends/flanges for silicon and gaskets

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need 1 more exhaust rubber for this other one cracked from lazyness lmao

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the twin cats re installed


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cleaned up and re organized the hole for intercooler piping made it much better and neat

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installed bonnnet

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[vrcalais6]

Niceee man, should be tuff when its all together.

Keep up the good work.
Keep us posted with the pics.

[kakimoto]

the beast club guru and his car

you and ur members still making fun of vl turbo drivers that have lost there lifes?

[Weapon.Vs]

i used to see this car in the doncaster area alot, do you live around there?

Mean car anyways man, looked & sounded tuff as when i saw it last & looks like its coming back with some mega upgrade. Keep up the good work

[SSN8R]

ey cheers wpn
nah dont live there but got some friends up there i do go to visit regularly + my gf lives down the road too so im guessing it was last year n stuff u saw me thats when i was there mainly in this car

[Weapon.Vs]

ey cheers wpn
nah dont live there but got some friends up there i do go to visit regularly + my gf lives down the road too so im guessing it was last year n stuff u saw me thats when i was there mainly in this car

Oh yeah thats cool man

Do you have any vids of it? wouldnt mind checking them out.

How long till its bak on the road?

[SSN8R]

another week and a bit tops if things go as planned

old dyno vid when it was blown 304 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8vv9Xoyw7Q

belt slipped each run u can hear it and injectors were at max flow so leaned out hard, would have hit 300 easy with those 2 problems eliminated!!

[kakimoto]

hey mate what u thinks going to be better your car with the extra power or ducking and weeving every vl u see?

[Weapon.Vs]

another week and a bit tops if things go as planned

old dyno vid when it was blown 304 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8vv9Xoyw7Q

belt slipped each run u can hear it and injectors were at max flow so leaned out hard, would have hit 300 easy with those 2 problems eliminated!!


I had a look at the vid, sounds better than i remember from when i last saw it.

Looking forward to seeing the final product and seeing what kind of power you pull

Goodluck with it all & keep us updated

[SSN8R]

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here a small video of it just before the blower shat itself on dyno..still more power to come!! once blower is fixed!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSBP_R6vf-M

[kakimoto]

its come up nice


just to let every one no this guy either owns or moderates the beast club cruse web site and crap and lets people make fun of people that have died while driving a vl, so his just a rat

[SSN8R]

ahhh matthew....still having a bitch like a little kid with who scraped his knee on his play time!!!! aww how emotional,

show me where i have had fun about dead vl drivers????? im interested in seeing this!!!!

[kakimoto]

its andrew by the way are you a mod or admin on beast club yes or no?

[SSN8R]

I'm the founder, so stop wasting my time and show me where did i make fun of dead vl drivers?

[cano1]

kakimoto this thread has nothing to do with "dead vl drivers" and i dont think he would have said anything about it anyway.

any way nice car mate, the thing looks mental to drive on the road lol.what 1/4mile times are expecting to run??good luck with it

[kakimoto]

he was the founder of the site there was a thread on there WITH ALL THE VL'S THAT HAD CRASHED he banned every ct user and they all made fun off ppl loosing there lifes that drive vl's this guy and his web site are fuking dogs case closed


hey by the way when pannik finds out what was said on ur site its gonna hurt

[Weapon_Vs]

here a small video of it just before the blower shat itself on dyno..still more power to come!! once blower is fixed!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSBP_R6vf-M

Hey bro, its weapon.vs, forgot my password for my old nick so had to sign up under a new one.

Sweeeeeeeeeeet vid man, sounds awesome as. Do you cruise much?

Might have to go for a cruise sometime, would be great to see it in the flesh.


Kakimoto dude each time i check this thread your sooking. Seems like no one eles agree's with you so why dont you get a life since your making yourself look like a looser. And sif a car club owner would make fun of something like that, you have got your wires mixed thats for sure, since you cant provide the bloke with any proof of what was said. Ive heard their official events get 300+ cars, vls included cant be that bad ey

ahhh your tuff man making threats over the net, get over it

[kakimoto]

im sorry but im just making sure no one has respect for this person cause he does not for any vl owners him and his web site included

but it is a nice build up

[SSN8R]

i got no respect for every vl owner? lmfao!!! thats a classic..each time he writes he comes up with some rhetorical shit.

have you come to realise that we actually have a fair few vl / calaisturbo members on the site aswell as on the cruises often so no i dont have no respect nor have i banned them all. but yes i have banned a few of the dejected ones as they aren't civil besides i am the admin i got every right to ban or remove them does not make me a dog it is called discipline and rules


man i gota say u sound like 1 miserable, dishearted kunt. u wana make sure i get no respect?? dude do u not seem to realise that i dont give a shit wat ur trying to get at???? my life doesn't revolve around the internet or forums, maybe it has not clicked to ur bird brain either that i have ignored few of ur passed posts coz ur jsut a waste of time like every other keyboard muzza


so where's this thing based on the death vl drivers?? man fuk dis 1 has no idea wat his on about..theres heaps of calaisturbo members on the site so stop wimpering like a dog will ya and open ur fkn eyes, wake up and smell da coffee


listen man..i dont no wat u want but if i did say sum shit regarding dead vl drivers, death of vl drivers or vl drivers corpse then find it and show everyone and make me out to be the dog you have been supposedly saying for the past 2 posts.


seek help.

[SSN8R]

any way nice car mate, the thing looks mental to drive on the road lol.what 1/4mile times are expecting to run??good luck with it

cheers man:p
im aiming for 11's with the current setup and tune, with good slicks hopefuly break the 10s..just matter of traction
yeh it goes mental man.no words to describe, 20% throttle and ur already skating.. :eek:


Hey bro, its weapon.vs, forgot my password for my old nick so had to sign up under a new one.

Sweeeeeeeeeeet vid man, sounds awesome as. Do you cruise much?

Might have to go for a cruise sometime, would be great to see it in the flesh.


thanx :)
the vid is shit cant hear the thing from the fan but il get a betta 1 when i get time
nah i dont cruise much but will be later maybe next year as the holidays are gona be blitz all ova maybe in feb or march hit a few cruises

[turxbo]

Nice looking car and that's awesome power...although i also remember the thread with the images of smashed vls (some being fatals) and you and your forum members having a laugh. Nice to see you staying civil in the face of the critism above though.

Any updates on the blower?? Geeze this has been a bit of a build haha i've read about it on a couple of forums now!

[kakimoto]

as said the thread was on your site before i was banned from ur hektic forum anyway champ good luck with the build


good luck down the hwy and what not when ppl your site laughed at see you

[SSN8R]

Any updates on the blower?? Geeze this has been a bit of a build haha i've read about it on a couple of forums now!


yeah thanx man
just got the blower back now, ill be bolting it on tonite
before i go anywhere i need to wash it still, its still got 12 months of dust on it..havent had time to wash it from all the fault finding sessions..so il be spending the weekend detailing her


anyway champ good luck with the build


good luck down the hwy and what not when ppl your site laughed at see you

cheers, the last bit didnt make much sence :confused: but thanx

[SSN8R]

some tacky pics!


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[hsv1987]

so shes all done now? tuff car man, i love vn ss, sold mine awhile back, wish i hadn't..

[SSN8R]

cheers bro
yeah all done!! took a while didn't it!! :P

[jamfrank]

buddy. just a thought maybe change to a vortech supercharger and watch your dyno figures go up.......

[SSN8R]

buddy. just a thought maybe change to a vortech supercharger and watch your dyno figures go up.......


true yeah been thinking about it, but how much more can it go up at same boost considering a vortech runs hotter than a powerdyne belt drive. ive seen vortechs with same setup as mine pumping more boost than me making less power then me..i would only go for a vortech for durability

a picture update

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[cano1]

that looks tuff as with the cooler hanging out the front.

[SSN8R]

yeah haha thats wat everyone says
il have a nice video of it up tonite look out..just few in and outs of the car:)

[SSN8R]

heres a video as mentioned

http://youtube.com/watch?v=509nNmGzGQo

[cano1]

car sounds tuff as, now chuck on some stockies and get some fun vids lol. nice work with the ss

[SSN8R]

hahaha yeah one day il get to that!!
shes running a lil too rich in da cold starts so my tuners gona reduce the cold open look fuel mixture enrichment..
but yea she sounds good thanx bro

[hsv1987]

sounds mad

[SSN8R]

thanks hsv

heres the latest on the car, got tyres walled, ditched the malpassi and installed a new turbo smart fpr1200 fuel pressure regulator, should be getting another tune this week coz its just running rich as a bitch specially on cold starts!

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the next mod will most likely be to braid whole engine bay,

[Tuffer]

Love the build man and impressive power :P

As for the tuner i would be very very careful of small pauly as he has a habit of tuning a little to far :)

[SSN8R]

ey trent thanx watsup man?? impressive power but not as good as ur beast brada ! haha
wat u mean paul has a habit of tuning a little to far ???

[Tuffer]

He tuned my car when i first built the 355 for it and he told me he was "god" of tuning, i had it back to him 4 times, logging codes, killing plugs, bad cold starts, he actually masked the engine light code so it would never come on again andd it had mid range severe lean out, and minced the engine, it was 110% his fault and via the legal system he compensated me by paying for an engine rebuild, and he also tuned a mates and he had engine problems aswell.

So i thought if these "gods" can tune a car then theres no reason why we cant learn and do it better.

[SSN8R]

hmmm when was that?
who tunes ur car now???

[Tuffer]

Few years ago, and as for tuning we do it ourself, the car hasnt seen a dyno since. I believe the street is the only best way to tune a car properly under 100% driving conditions not like a dyno, we have been tuning it since paul caused my engine faliure and havnt looked back since!

[Nick304]

Few years ago, and as for tuning we do it ourself, the car hasnt seen a dyno since. I believe the street is the only best way to tune a car properly under 100% driving conditions not like a dyno, we have been tuning it since paul caused my engine faliure and havnt looked back since!

You interested in tuning my car? :)

[SSN8R]

looks like im gona have to learn that shit too
id need a test bed car to play around with tho, dont wana fuk around with my vn il defiantely turn it into a ticking time bomb :P

[ponti]

Hey Tuffer Paul will be doing a real time delco set up for my race car when he builds the short motor to suit over 2200hp He is currently sorting out the procharged small block in my street car with 15lb of boost pulp and 15 degrees of timing it makes 512rwkw and has run 10.5 @ 138 in street trim @4100lb all built by him so it aint all bad im sure he could have gone bankrupt and payed nothing but he worked out an acceptable result after the failure and both parties were able to move on . I remember you and your Dad when your car was new and you were still using dynos its sure come a long way a credit to you both being in the 10's . Paul to has worked hard doing his best to keep everyone happy which in life is impossible to do everytime but atleast he can stand and deliver when challenged and pay for the rebuild not run like others around him I am proud to have his sticker on my car as he is a genuine bloke who trys his hardest to deliver what I ask of him.

[Tuffer]

Im glad you trust him with your gear, but i wouldnt let him tune my lawnmower, he hardly stood and payed, it was only until he had an order out against him for the costs :)

Im only putting out there the truth so some other sucker doesnt get sucked in.

My recommendation now is only have a reputable business build and tune your car if you cant do it yourself .Not some1 that hires a dyno at "X's" workshop and tunes after hours, and especially some1 that is registered on a tuners forums asking technical questions about tuning parameters that they are unsure of, altho someone has to start somewhere. :)

ponti sounds like you have a few monsters on your hand nice power, are you going to wind the wick up on your streeter and run a bigger number ?

[Silver VH]

Not wanting to point any fingers on the reputation of certain tuners, but when I still owned my VK, pretty wild combination running a kalmaker ecu (read: twin throttled, alloyed headed solid cammed combination.) I upgraded my bumpstick to an even more agressive profile and on recommendation decided to let Paul go over the maps and re-adjust to suit the bigger cam. Unfortunately within a week it popped the head gaskets and the spark plugs had revealed severe lean off. I am not one for pointing fingers but the car ran fine with the old tune for 3 months previous. I then took the car to Electronic Automotive in Epping who diagnosed a fault with the cruise parameter in the ECU that forced partial lean-out in top gear. This is going back a fair few years ago but I have learnt now to only trust registered workshop's with my car that will not be able to disappear overnight and close up shop. As for the VK, it ran fine for another year with not one drama after it left Electronic Automotive's premises and managed back to back 10 second passes before being sold interstate. If I ever decide to go back to EFI, I would probably look at tuning it myself, as no-one cares more about your vehicle than the owner!

[ponti]

I just know Paul personally and he and I seem to have a good thing going compared to the last bloke I used over this side who just kept blowing my shit up too, everybody has to learn and Paul has come a long way as all of us have no excuse for what has happened in the past guys just stating he has been able to turn my problems around and get my car going its never done as many kms since Paul built it. Anyway the wick is being turned up as we speak but still trying to keep it on pulp so we will see how it goes I always said 9.99 in street trim would be nice . I could start a decent list of cars ive seen break on the dyno and many different reasons from tuning to leaking reference lines on boosted applications . One things for sure power runs on dynos expose the weakest link in your set up most times so if its not 100 % dont run it up thats my motto now anyway as stated nobody sees our cars as we do so we need to be involved in all areas to keep progressing Thanks for your thoughts good luck in the future

[Tuffer]

It would be nice to keep it on the topic guys of axi's ss

are you going to run the ss man? would be interestign to see what it could do

[SSN8R]

well yeh man i plan on doing so, but im saving for new gear box atm so when i do go strip incase i blow the box i will have the money ready to get instant rebuild haha
i plan on keeping the manual, cannot go past that

i just got my car back from paul now and he has done real great job on the tuning, a massive difference with such greater throttle response and all, i bought a new turbosmart fpr1200 2 weeks ago which had kicked the tune out so he redone the lot on dyno just before and i love my car even more now. couldnt ask for better!!

[SSN8R]

hey ppl!! new pics from last sunday!!
u already know what it looks like but yeh, why not some more huh

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[The_kid]

Hey mate looks good! if u want to know u can use a toyota landcruiser top radiator hose, fits like a glove and it looks a shit load bet than those suppercheap universal hoses....

[SSN8R]

oh yeh?
so they are the ones that suit the c.o.m.e. manifold from the raditaor?? ive been after one but didnt no which hose to get
thanks i will get it on my next radiator upgrade as im goin alloy very soon !!

[The_kid]

Yeah mate i put one on my mates vs ute with the same maifold

[SSN8R]

sweet as well thanks for letting me no about that!! i always wanted to know which hose was the right fit ;) now i can get it finally. hehe
cheers

[SSN8R]

bumping this up some new pics, this time proffessional pics of her !!

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[Big_Burnouts]

nice pics...

[geordo]

I think I've got a broken neck :p

[hsv1987]

love it man, best vn ss iv seen

[SSN8R]

haha thanks ppl!!
working on getting a video happening hopefuly have one in the next week or two, waiting for a good time and place to approach
cannot wait to take to the track to see wat she does eventually!!

[hsv1987]

I wana see what It does to.. what quarter time you looking at?

[SSN8R]

wel it done 12's in the old setup
so i will be happy with 11's with the manual behind the donk!
11's with manual in street trim is wat i want..traction will be the issue

[capri1276]

sounds like alot of money spent in the wrong place's to me as i own a blown std stroke 304 that has gone 9.8/140 so far with under 10 pounds boost with no port work at all. yes it's a drag car but there is no need to do this much to the motor to get the power being blown you will get over 50% more than the heads flow as STD VN heads flow 470 HP you work it out & I HAVE PROVED IT

[Tuffer]

Ive seen your capri go and to me it spent more time going to the pits to be worked on?
And i wouldnt go braging about your times and speeds as theres plenty of street cars out there that will overmatch your capri :)

[Silver VH]

capri1276, how has he spent money in the wrong places? Porting heads is proven to increase HP with forced induction UPTO a certain amount, further beyond this it is un-necessary due to head design, manifold restriction, exhaust restriction etc. Heads that have been ported correctly to about 540hp is sufficient and justifible under boosted applications. THIS IS A PROVEN FACT with the vn heads (most of the work should be concentrated on the exhaust ports.) If you did your heads you would see valueble gains not only in peak power, but the way the power comes on, research before commenting as its not just about stuffing air down the throat of the motor... 9.8 @ 140 in a gutted out drag car is pretty impressive, did you back off 1/4 track or 1/2 track? People are running 9's with N/A donks in full weighted cars on pump fuel. What are your cam specs? Lift, duration and lobe seperation? Would be interesting to see the specs of your cam considering you havent touched the heads at all. I've actually just finished building my 355 stroker which will be getting some forced induction, so shall be interesting to see what numbers I can pull, although its only a budget build, its not about slapping a motor together, but more behind the engineering aspects of it and making everything work together, that is what seperates the shitters from the well sorted cars. :)

Axi's car in my opinion is well sorted, capri1276 i believe falls into the other category...

[SSN8R]

capri - well sounds like you got something to prove but doesnt matter if u run 5's bro,

when i built my car, no point building a half ass motor, with a bigger inlet manifold or such and such stroker but stock heads .. if i was gona leave the heads stock i may aswell would have just left the whole top end stock, and then again the whole motor stock to be honest hehe,

but i went all out..(mods wise) u can have stock heads on a std stroke 304 ofcourse, but once u up the stroke ur gona need some more air to compensate for it, yeah mines blown u say but if i left the heads stock then again car wouldn't be running like where it as now !! think about it !! would be a great drop in the torque curve!

am sure if u did ur heads too u would see a big change

and well said as silver vh says its not about slapping a motor together!! the gemoetry and physics, it is exactly right and i learned also much myself during the build, and i built my motor for flow, response and power, not for daily drags

btw silver vh, are u trent's mate with the twin turbo vh bro?? hehe wat was ya name man? bob wasnt it??


some new pics for now!!

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k152/GammaGrL/touchpic.jpg



http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q285/Tegan_rhino/picture752051.jpg



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tyres re-walled


http://members.optusnet.com.au/elizabeth-a/walls2a.jpg



http://members.optusnet.com.au/elizabeth-a/walls1a.jpg

[Silver VH]

Yeah Axi thats me, that car is in hibernation as I am just finishing up the final stages of my other car. Moment its done I'll get stuck back into it so I can finish it off once and for all!

[Big_Burnouts]

Some of the photos are overexposed or underexposed not sure if you are trying to get that effect. maybe get a copy of lightroom.

[SSN8R]

Yeah Axi thats me, that car is in hibernation as I am just finishing up the final stages of my other car. Moment its done I'll get stuck back into it so I can finish it off once and for all!


ahhh hehe yeah thought it was u man
i havent seen that car in years, well only saw it in pics hope to see it in action soon, wat u building now is it that 355 blown u were talking about as above????


Some of the photos are overexposed or underexposed not sure if you are trying to get that effect. maybe get a copy of lightroom.


yeah wouldnt know a thing bro i didnt take them pics, different cams different modes!! digital cams for ya bro hehe

[Silver VH]

ahhh hehe yeah thought it was u man
i havent seen that car in years, well only saw it in pics hope to see it in action soon, wat u building now is it that 355 blown u were talking about as above????


yer, vortech V2 SQ with a vn headed 355, solid cam, cooler etc. Just finished painting the motor before actually lol. Putting it all in a VH SL/E, just want it as a weekender/cruiser.

[SSN8R]

ahh haha, cant wait to see this
before u finnish one u start another one! but this one sounds like the shiznits!! hehe
u gona wack it up here or wat i gota see this thing:D

[kakimoto]

how come no link to your cars zoo page its wining isnt it?

[SSN8R]

how come no link to your cars zoo page its wining isnt it?


i was man but but now im 4-5 coz i stopped spreading the link to my mates n shit coz i just found out the comp ends in november!!!!!! haha fuck that!! i thought it was this month or something,
mite just get ppl to vote me later when theres 1 month left or sum shit

but yeah heres the link anyways thanks for reminding http://realcars.zooweekly.com.au/ViewProfile.aspx?profileID=423

[kakimoto]

i was taking the piss i would imagine u had every one of your "beast club" members clicking for you

[SSN8R]

i have alot of VL mates clicking for me :)

[SSN8R]

it just doesnt end...my dad was right.well...bought these today from ipr


http://members.optusnet.com.au/elizabeth-a/newcovers.jpg

[Silver VH]

Ahh you ended up going with those covers, how much did they set you back and can that IPR emblem be removed?

They're a really nice cover!

[SSN8R]

ey thanks bob
they are 450 mark, and yeah the sticker can be removed
id say with a heat gun or something

[sexyty]

Mate you have one insane street car... cant wait to see the vids:D

[SSN8R]

Mate you have one insane street car... cant wait to see the vids:D


thanks man heres a vid just took 2 days ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGv_qnWjAZE

[LTDHO]

Great build thread Axi, you'd have to be pretty happy with this car and the progress you have made!

I'm happy with mine and just upgraded the cooler. I don't want more power, 360 is to much for the street as it is!! :D

Anyway I have always been a fan of the Atlas Grey VN SS and yours is a fine example of one!

Well done

[djlilpete]

omg axi thAts 1 hot ride bro love the car keep it up :)

[GiGgLeGaS]

How much does the new motor setup owe you? I'm thinking of going down this path with my car but opting for a 6/71 with twin quad throttles instead of carbies, only problem is the gm roots style blowers need fuel running through them otherwise they lunch themselves, so may have to look at a holley injection throttle or similar, but would be nice knowing what type of cost your setup owes you.

[SSN8R]

Great build thread Axi, you'd have to be pretty happy with this car and the progress you have made!

I'm happy with mine and just upgraded the cooler. I don't want more power, 360 is to much for the street as it is!! :D

Anyway I have always been a fan of the Atlas Grey VN SS and yours is a fine example of one!

Well done

omg axi thAts 1 hot ride bro love the car keep it up :)


ey thanks man

yeah true wayne 342 is plenty for street for me yet alone 360, dont even use much of the boost there and she still a pshycho on the street,


How much does the new motor setup owe you? I'm thinking of going down this path with my car but opting for a 6/71 with twin quad throttles instead of carbies, only problem is the gm roots style blowers need fuel running through them otherwise they lunch themselves, so may have to look at a holley injection throttle or similar, but would be nice knowing what type of cost your setup owes you.


the motor ITSELF cost between 10-15
then the additional parts, tune, build, etc etc, adds on
not cheap, but mainly coz i saved up money every month then went out buying the parts sperately instead of as a whole! took ages

[capri1276]

(Ive seen your capri go and to me it spent more time going to the pits to be worked on?
And i wouldnt go braging about your times and speeds as theres plenty of street cars out there that will overmatch your capri)
WELL yes this is true, they can if i had a endless amount of $$ to waste i would aswell but i don't. lets see it owe's less then $25.000 to build it lets see can brag about a time. If you can do better then open your trap as i bet you can't. yes i work on it as i built to be used im making real power not make beleive and as soon as you do you will learn you need to look after it and i play to see what works & some times it does not. No else has ever work on it only my self, I dont pay other people to work on it, I do the lot build trans, diff , motor, pipes, carbs has never been on a dyno never will i run 6psi boost to get a high 9. when i up to 30 that i am going to what then smart ass mybe a mid low 8 out of 304 any fool can pay others to do it try your self then see what you can do i bet you will not we just pay others to do it for us as we dont know how to do it

[capri1276]

as to Silver VH coment yes but why do the ports if you dont need to as my motor is not a slapped together peice sh##. if you only new what it was my cam is made for my car by crow cams as i had to go & see them to get it made to my spec's. my block is a VN grp A 4 bolt, i made the sheet alloy manifold. Now you miss the point if it's blown you dont need port work yes it will help if you use not much boost or the ports are not good but VN heads are very good if you talk to the right guys. if you do you home work as i did by not talking to the wrong people (nearly 4 years of it) but the ones in the know if you use the right grind cam not a box job. As my LH had a early headed 308 with a bm loblow blower on it it had over 400 hp on the steet and was used every day for 5 years on pump gas in the mid 90'S oh it cost less then $6000 with a new Vn block,forged pistons, Vn grp A rods ,heat treated crank, solid cam, heads then the same combo is used by the people in know now with my old VN block with a 6/71 as it worked. Im old i have been there & did it more then 1 time im not young stupid as i was, so i spend wisely yes i do have something to prove that is if you talk to people that know there stuff you can do it very cheap with the best parts if you are willing to hear what they say not what you want to hear.oh yes its a race car not a street car & i know nothing that i go down the track only 1/2 way

[capri1276]

GiGgLeGaS if you do want to know about blown motors speak to clint with the pink blown lc as he's use's the same machine shop as i do. he's short motor is not that pricy if you do it right x or vn rods or chev if you use a stroker, good forged pistons. You do know that you can run EFI with a injector hat with 4 or 8 injectors under it & some in manifold, Or you get the 6/71 made to run dry as that how they work on the deisel motor's or to run on LPG the list's go's on it's up to how much you want to spend as most are willing to take it and promiss the earth. spend wisely
thanks steve

[Tuffer]

capri1276 you first replied on here basically blowing shit up axi's ass, by saying he has done it wrong and spent too much in the wrong places. I love people like you who seem to "know" it all, experience doesnt always come with age, i mean hes happy as hell with the car, enjoying it and obviously had fun building it the way he wanted.

Alot of people can spend shit loads on engine components, like H beams, forgies, roller cams, billet cranks etc etc, and they don't do it to save money, they do it for there own reasons weather it sounds better, or for reliability, or they have been ripped who knows who cares.

And you seem to have a claim of fame with your drag car. and believe i shouldnt be commenting when in fact ive been there and done it myself, yes 100% built at home, engine, paint, trim, wiring, fuel system, diff, trans, exhaust, and all custom work and no ive never signed a cheque over to anyone nor been to a workshop for work, its been featured in several magazines and also taken out many awards in car shows.

My engine I've built in the car hasn't seen a dyno either and my claim of fame will be the fact that mine is a full street car, i guarantee I've spent less than you have, and it will run the same ET yours has, so therefore your engine in an equivalent street car wouldn't come anywhere near mine, i have alot of r&d into my setup as no one has done what i am trying to acchieve, and mine is naturally aspirated :)

So maybe some people just need to climb back into there box, and stay reserved on comments that may offend ttthe people who are spending the $$

[GiGgLeGaS]

I've decided against a 6/71 and will be going twin GT47's, may aswell go all out and not half build things. Should go alright in a LH torana, tubbed, 4-link, 355 stroked V8 with twin turbo's, I'm hoping for around 1000rwhp and should run 8's down the 1/4 and yes, it will see street duties, helps when you have a dad that builds performance cars for a living. :p

[SSN8R]

capri1276 you first replied on here basically blowing shit up axi's ass, by saying he has done it wrong and spent too much in the wrong places. I love people like you who seem to "know" it all, experience doesnt always come with age, i mean hes happy as hell with the car, enjoying it and obviously had fun building it the way he wanted.

Alot of people can spend shit loads on engine components, like H beams, forgies, roller cams, billet cranks etc etc, and they don't do it to save money, they do it for there own reasons weather it sounds better, or for reliability, or they have been ripped who knows who cares.

And you seem to have a claim of fame with your drag car. and believe i shouldnt be commenting when in fact ive been there and done it myself, yes 100% built at home, engine, paint, trim, wiring, fuel system, diff, trans, exhaust, and all custom work and no ive never signed a cheque over to anyone nor been to a workshop for work, its been featured in several magazines and also taken out many awards in car shows.

My engine I've built in the car hasn't seen a dyno either and my claim of fame will be the fact that mine is a full street car, i guarantee I've spent less than you have, and it will run the same ET yours has, so therefore your engine in an equivalent street car wouldn't come anywhere near mine, i have alot of r&d into my setup as no one has done what i am trying to acchieve, and mine is naturally aspirated :)

So maybe some people just need to climb back into there box, and stay reserved on comments that may offend ttthe people who are spending the $$



well said man, too true couldn't agree any more.
i guess each to there own, if he thinks i spent too much in the wrong area i guess thats his opinions. theres no such thing as spending too much on a car tho...eitherway u gota be prepared to spend alot on a car when modifying it, i couldnt leave the stock heads ther and focus on the rest..:rolleyes:

[GiGgLeGaS]

Btw didn't Clint's new motor lunch itself after the first burnout?? Would explain why it wasn't so pricey then, coz it obviously couldn't handle the task and wasn't upto scratch.

So who did what right again??

Axi how many k's you clocked up now? Any drama's?

[SSN8R]

clocked up around 3,000 going by memory and nah no dramas at all man, diff is singling out but thats my problem,

the only major dramas i had were the internal blower belt shredding heaps but that coz the turbosmart bov had turbo spring in it, upgraded that to s/c spring and upgraded vac lines to bigger diameter thats all fixed

and just general cold start issues at very start but all sorted ages ago, other then that no engine failure fuck ups etc etc, been giving the car some demand lately too it doesnt skip a beat..love it

[capri1276]

I've decided against a 6/71 and will be going twin GT47's, may aswell go all out and not half build things. Should go alright in a LH torana, tubbed, 4-link, 355 stroked V8 with twin turbo's, I'm hoping for around 1000rwhp and should run 8's down the 1/4 and yes, it will see street duties, helps when you have a dad that builds performance cars for a living. :p
Mate a real 1000 hp on the street good to you as it should be a a fun rid my mate had 600 out of a 2L WOW he took out a dyno shot out with it then It sit's in the shed as he can not us it as it will not hook up so what does he do back the boost off so whats the point to it. As to clints NO IT DID NOT SHIT IT SELF mate he is making more HP any how. As soon as you guys' get some real HP then we will see. As anybody in the know, know's the problem you have with holden's but as im wasting my time hear. yes i was only tring to help as i have done it before & yes we had problems & we still do as we try new things all the time as this is the only way you will learn YES THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WILL HAVE MORE THAN ME THEN THERE WILL BE SOMELSE THAT WILL HAVE MORE THEN YOU SO LIFE GOES ON I WAS ONLY TRING TO HELP SO TO ALL THAT TOOK IT THE WRONG WAY SORRY AS IT WAS A WASTE OF MY TIME.

[Big_Burnouts]

calm the fuck down mate!, keyboard wars lol

[Bandit702]

It's damn simple. Really how hard can it be????

The more power you are able to make aspirated, the more potential you have when you supercharge.

My bike for example. Billet Gearbox, Billet Crank, Moly Rods and Forged Pistons as far as performance gear goes. The stuff that actually makes the whole deal stronger and less susceptible to failing. Standard Head with heavy valve springs, titanium valve retainers, standard sized stainless valves. Porting, i cleaned the burrs up in the inlet ports and did my own little trick in the exhaust ports. Bog Stock camshafts.

Aspirated, the deal would make around 150 hp at 6.8:1 comp ratio. Turbocharged, about 340 hp at 36 PSI. To think, the engine capacity is 1.26 litres.

We have run .26 under our national ET record and 5 mph over the national speed record.

As far as I am concerned, SSN8R has spent the correct money in the correct places. More aspirated power = more consistant and outright supercharged power.

P.S. I am not really one for you blown drag car boys taking shortcuts on engine gear. I absoutley hate it when I get stuck in the staging lanes because another supercharged outlaws car has crashed or dropped oil (Traditionally through the hole in the block where the conrod used to be.)

[capri1276]

Hay get off your high horse's geez you only have to say the wrong thing or disagree then you get it on this forum.
But just to clear thing's up i dont do things by 1/2 that why i have drag car as if i go over i want to live. AS THE STREETS ARE NOT THE PLACE TO RACE.
Its just not needed to port my heads yet as they are doing what they have to do so why port them as we wanted to go as fast with the ports as they flow very well.
As to my combo is a far better then most people have eg not a std block GRP A 4 bolt not bored thickest wall, Custom made rods not cheap shit, Arias forged pistons 10 to 1, Copper gaskets, The heads are STD ports but that as far as std they are. Crow springs push rods etc , Yerra terra rollers, Manly SS Vavles, 10 degree retainers,The list goes on it's all studed the crank is the weak link but we are going to a custom steel one as soon as i have the funds that why we have not push it hard yet with boost THAT WHY THE ET.

As to what he has done i don't disagree to it at all. All i was doing was trying to putting my point across about the ports & the amount of money people spend when told to & not talking to others this was not a dig at him just an overall comment OH SAY HI TO PAUL FOR ME NEXT TIME YOU SEE HIM thanks steve ( NKA Parts )

[LTDHO]

Isn't this thread about a VNSS?

Seems to be taken off topic

[driftnvl]

well said mate

[GAS747]

Power: 342.3rwkw safe tune

Good power bro, when we gonna see this thing run a low 10? should be good, keep us posted would love to come down n watch :D

[kakimoto]

342 on a safe tune?

so are you aiming for 400kw race tune?

[GAS747]

fark would be an animal with 400, should go deep into the 9's! yet again good work

:D

[kakimoto]

if only zoo weekly votes where a measure on out put lol

bring on race tune

[SSN8R]

hehe, stop being dumb kunts
if u wana give it shit then do it properly ;)


Good power bro, when we gonna see this thing run a low 10? should be good, keep us posted would love to come down n watch :D


low 10s??? ahah, stop fkn around man, will need to do alot more shit to get to the 10s,

old 304 setup ran 12s with the t5 and no intercooler, so with the new rebuild just hoping for anywhere in the 11's traction permitting

will be running it this later this year tho,

[GiGgLeGaS]

Mate a real 1000 hp on the street good to you as it should be a a fun rid my mate had 600 out of a 2L WOW he took out a dyno shot out with it then It sit's in the shed as he can not us it as it will not hook up so what does he do back the boost off so whats the point to it. As to clints NO IT DID NOT SHIT IT SELF mate he is making more HP any how. As soon as you guys' get some real HP then we will see. As anybody in the know, know's the problem you have with holden's but as im wasting my time hear. yes i was only tring to help as i have done it before & yes we had problems & we still do as we try new things all the time as this is the only way you will learn YES THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WILL HAVE MORE THAN ME THEN THERE WILL BE SOMELSE THAT WILL HAVE MORE THEN YOU SO LIFE GOES ON I WAS ONLY TRING TO HELP SO TO ALL THAT TOOK IT THE WRONG WAY SORRY AS IT WAS A WASTE OF MY TIME.


Real HP? lol...ok then, you don't know me from a bar of soap, what do you define as real HP? All of us have different goals, some want outright power, some want fast 1/4 mile times, others just seem content in building lemon after lemon motors :)
I think you need to get off your high horse and read your own advice, older doesn't necessarly mean wiser my friend, the holden v8 has been around for that long, people know it in and out, know what to do correctly, know its weaknesses and know how to extract maximum HP out of them, ring up any performance workshop or any cylinder head shop and ask them if there is any beneficial gains from porting VN heads for forced induction, or any head for that matter. I told you the sensible limit for forced induction on VN heads, but you refused to acknowledge it and deemed standard heads to be sufficient. How many forced induction motors have you built exactly, being holden V8 of course? I'd still like to know your cam specs just out of curiousity, as anyone would know you wouldn't dare run the same cam with standard heads compared to ported ones and I am under the belief that if you are building a modified motor it is fucking stupid to have absolutely standard heads on it regardless if it is forced induction or not!

Just my "worthless, un-experienced opinion." :)

[kakimoto]

im sorrry but what do you mean do more shit?

342kw in my book says 10 sec's EASY please explane why it would not run a 10 with the power you have stated it has?

[GAS747]

hehe, stop being dumb kunts
if u wana give it shit then do it properly ;)





low 10s??? ahah, stop fkn around man, will need to do alot more shit to get to the 10s,

old 304 setup ran 12s with the t5 and no intercooler, so with the new rebuild just hoping for anywhere in the 11's traction permitting

will be running it this later this year tho,

well i wasnt the one posting how ur cars gonna smash my times, i read that on ur forum from ur mates/mrs...

But come on man, 342 RWKW is huge power man, should go a 10 easy

hey i never ever said anything bad about ur car, so I dont know why u guys had a stab at me

[[XCHSER]]

342rwkw on pump = 10 second machine seeing as Stolwn ran a 10 with only 288rwkw it shouldn be a problem for you, and with race tune you should hit a 9... :eek:

[kakimoto]

hey i never ever said anything bad about ur car, so I dont know why u guys had a stab at me

its cause your leb paul :p

[cano1]

the vn would be alot hevier than a vl, it should do low or mid 11's, its still a quick car for the street

[JUST]

Its defiantly got the power to do a 10 it just needs to have the right set up ,slicks,suspension,gears etc my car's got only 351.2 HP at the tires weights 3300 ponds (about 1530kg) and gets consistent 11.0's at the track, its all to do with how you set the car up.

[GiGgLeGaS]

Doesn't have the power to run 10's with a manual behind it. Throw an auto behind it, yes it will make less power but still only enough for 11's. The problem with superchargers is the way the power comes on is so different to N/A, so peak power output may be 1 thing, but taking into account the entire usuable rev range and how the power delivery is, will reveal an easy 11sec pass, but not a 10. It all comes down to set up and with a centrifigal supercharger, I cannot see it happening at this point in time. With 400rwkw at peak with a manual, it would run close to a 10, throw an auto and see it make 400rwkw and I'm sure then a 10 would be on the cards. It is doable with this combination, but would come at a cost, I would be more than happy with a mid-high 11sec pass.

[Tuffer]

I remember a certain tuners red vn grpa made mid 500rwkw at the time and with slix on the thing and manual the lemon only reeled in a 11.7 at some very sub standard mph aswell

Its all to do with the setup, the combination, and really the driver :)

[SSN8R]

well i wasnt the one posting how ur cars gonna smash my times, i read that on ur forum from ur mates/mrs...

But come on man, 342 RWKW is huge power man, should go a 10 easy

hey i never ever said anything bad about ur car, so I dont know why u guys had a stab at me

yeh i no, i never had a stab at ur car either, that was my mrs saying mine would beat this and that, not my mates or anyone else, duno why / how i got involved in that crap, its the internet man, ppl on other forums bag my car to, but ey who cares, just a car at the end of the day..

yeah 342 is good power but atm im only focussing on what i have on the car right now, so with the manual and etc, ofcourse with a propper driveline and wheel setup maybe it will have the potential to run better than 11's but for now im only focussing on the current driveline setup


after i hit the track and the box blows which it will il look into my options, ive thought about mini tubbing it, and yeah see how money looks for a good auto or tougher manual box, maybe auto setup if i really want to go for good times, atm i love manual, so fun haha, tho auto is only good for racing..

one day i would love to engineer the car but, and have it legal, but it will spoil a few things from bring fun, which most engineers think will not pass as is, i see ur car is on gas, is it engineered?? or not yet?


Its defiantly got the power to do a 10 it just needs to have the right set up ,slicks,suspension,gears etc my car's got only 351.2 HP at the tires weights 3300 ponds (about 1530kg) and gets consistent 11.0's at the track, its all to do with how you set the car up.

yeah with a better driveline setup it could have the potential to break some good times, but time will tell..whats ur gearbox man?? auto??

Doesn't have the power to run 10's with a manual behind it. Throw an auto behind it, yes it will make less power but still only enough for 11's. The problem with superchargers is the way the power comes on is so different to N/A, so peak power output may be 1 thing, but taking into account the entire usuable rev range and how the power delivery is, will reveal an easy 11sec pass, but not a 10. It all comes down to set up and with a centrifigal supercharger, I cannot see it happening at this point in time. With 400rwkw at peak with a manual, it would run close to a 10, throw an auto and see it make 400rwkw and I'm sure then a 10 would be on the cards. It is doable with this combination, but would come at a cost, I would be more than happy with a mid-high 11sec pass.


il be happy with anywhere in 11's as is really (with good tyres and tune) seeing that my old setup ran in the 12s with a stock 304 donk with a blower bolted on and the manual making 247rwkw at the time, traction is the issue at this point..

but yeah as most said, it comes down to the final setup and mainly the driver in the end..

[GAS747]

Yeh my car is engineered for straight LPG (Gas compliance plate etc) but not fully engineered yet.. I am rebuilding it next year with a toally new setup so will get it fully engineered then. Looking for anywhere in the 9's drive to the track and drive home. sick of this 10 sec bs :(

hehe

yeh I know wot ur sayin its all good bro ;) just sounds lke a lot of power to me but eh, who knows...

[JUST]

yeah with a better driveline setup it could have the potential to break some good times, but time will tell..whats ur gearbox man?? auto??

Yeh its a trimatic.

[capri1276]

Real HP? lol...ok then, you don't know me from a bar of soap, what do you define as real HP? All of us have different goals, some want outright power, some want fast 1/4 mile times, others just seem content in building lemon after lemon motors :)
I think you need to get off your high horse and read your own advice, older doesn't necessarly mean wiser my friend, the holden v8 has been around for that long, people know it in and out, know what to do correctly, know its weaknesses and know how to extract maximum HP out of them, ring up any performance workshop or any cylinder head shop and ask them if there is any beneficial gains from porting VN heads for forced induction, or any head for that matter. I told you the sensible limit for forced induction on VN heads, but you refused to acknowledge it and deemed standard heads to be sufficient. How many forced induction motors have you built exactly, being holden V8 of course? I'd still like to know your cam specs just out of curiousity, as anyone would know you wouldn't dare run the same cam with standard heads compared to ported ones and I am under the belief that if you are building a modified motor it is to have absolutely standard heads on it regardless if it is forced induction or not!

Just my "worthless, un-experienced opinion." :)

Mate did you know that BM in the states did dyno testing on all there blower kits and tried all heads from nonported to all out ports it's very good reading as to what they did maybe you should read it. but that was along time ago SHIT that's old we can't use that info. As to how many afew for myself and others till we came up to this motor, Cam we tried a few till this one lets say we spoke to a top fuel tuner to get to this. Well this fucking stupid lemon motor ran a 9 will you? WE LEARN EVERY DAY try looking outside the square as you might find new ways to do things, we did. You do know that if your boost goes up after 4000rpm then you have a restrictive set up with roots blower that from the BM testing well mine does not

[GiGgLeGaS]

Sorry, didn't realise the states used VN cylinder heads over there...I guess that must make all cylinder heads the same...better ring up holden and tell them it was a waste from updating their head design with the VN commodore. Kind of pointless reading information that will never benefit me. If I was building a chev and was clueless then yes maybe I would have a read of it.
Will I run a 9? Probably not to be honest, I was running 9's naturally aspirated and with this new setup if it doesn't run an 8, I will hold it on redline until it grenades as it would be very embarassing with my dad's name and reputation to do any less than that.

I must say, your car doesn't really impress me, its full tube chassis, walk off front, lexen windows and is running 9's at best. My old 308 hydraulic cammed motor would run a 10 in that kind of car. Put your motor in a full-weighted car and it would send me to sleep with the times it would run. Who the fuck even puts a holden motor in a capri? Is it just a test mule car for the real thing?

What's this square you keep on telling me to look outside of, we aren't living in wonderland here mate, there is no newfound secret about the holden motor that someone has magically discovered and kept under wraps, I think you need to stop whatever it is you farm boys are smoking.

Just out of interest for anyone, my gt47's arrived today, so it is all coming together nicely, once the block is all machined properly and to my standards, then the fun will begin.

[SSN8R]

Yeh my car is engineered for straight LPG (Gas compliance plate etc) but not fully engineered yet.. I am rebuilding it next year with a toally new setup so will get it fully engineered then. Looking for anywhere in the 9's drive to the track and drive home. sick of this 10 sec bs :(

hehe

yeh I know wot ur sayin its all good bro ;) just sounds lke a lot of power to me but eh, who knows...

thats mad man, so it is epa legal, adr 00/37 etc??..thats the good thing about gas and on the other hand engineering wont be a issue once your car is compliant with polution levels. And breaking the 9's will be fukn tuff! specially in a engineered legal car which u dont see these days. good luck on it man im sure u will get the 9's, throw the right amount of dosh at it and it will boogie the way you want her to :D

id love to engineer mine some day also, havent seen any engineered blown 355 holdens running on petrol as i'd want to know what they did and how much to get it legal as i know the prices are worse than whore rates :p

[kakimoto]

so what happen on princes hwy mr beast club? didnt u get torn a new ass hole by the piggers

[SSN8R]

nah hehe i actualy torn then a new ass hole mr kakamoto, :)
got a minor and no rwc required :)
ive seen worse defects on stock cars :D

[kakimoto]

are well you where lucky there, lucky you didnt tell them you where the founder of beast club they would have given you 4 months jail for bad taste :P

[IEVLSS]

are well you where lucky there, lucky you didnt tell them you where the founder of beast club they would have given you 4 months jail for bad taste :P

bahahaha.. quote of the forum!!! i heard the assinator got a epa???

[SSN8R]

A big update...the car is back from the dead :p

Ditched the powerdyne blower (stupid internal belt problems), and went a Vortech V2 T Trim path with 50mm gilmer pulley, air assist setup has been purchased from capa and re installed by my engine builder c.v.e. Remodified outlet, new piping, polished blower, hpc thermal barrier coated inlet manifold in a polished alloy finnish by HPC, chromed blower bracket, polished bolts, lots of stuff :) Stuff is cool :D


The car is running a new tune, 378.8rwkw / 506rwhp @ 10psi, car is making power way earlier with the vortech than it was with the pd blower, it is unbeleivable and a very big notecable difference.



Clutch slips heaps now so i am saving cash for new driveline (again) as i just blew all my cash on the new blower setup again


a pic

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k152/GammaGrL/Ssn8r967.jpg

[kakimoto]

looks good, you going to give it a c16 tune and go racing?

[SSN8R]

bigger brakes, clutch, gear box, diff, mini tub are on the list still plenty to do after that yalla

[HGPV]

To echo the comments of others, nice ride!

have you had it on the scales ? that would give us a good idea of ET's


talking of which, noticed all the bench racing and wanted to add my 2c,
my old Van 3330lbs went 11.1@121, 355, with HQ heads and a Rochester!!
+100hp shot of the good stuff, still has bench seat and column auto too. I have done all the work myself and i think what Capri was trying to iterate is that there is nothing comparable to having put everything together yourself and run it hard, of course not everyone has the equipment and skills to piece a car together & i hold nothing against them, simply their passion is the same as mine, Power and acceleration !!!


BTW 1.51 60ft, 7.04 660ft

[jamfrank]

glad you've seen the light and ditched the powerdyne and gone for the vortech...... new driveline.. i know all about that (cash ouch) keep a look out for MONSTA supercharged tubbed vr senator , ill post some some pics and info soon... keep up the good work bud

[SSN8R]

To echo the comments of others, nice ride!

have you had it on the scales ? that would give us a good idea of ET's



BTW 1.51 60ft, 7.04 660ft

ey man nah no scaling yet!!!

glad you've seen the light and ditched the powerdyne and gone for the vortech...... new driveline.. i know all about that (cash ouch) keep a look out for MONSTA supercharged tubbed vr senator , ill post some some pics and info soon... keep up the good work bud

ey broz cheers, yeh that powerdyne was just nothing headaches..it was good on my 304 setup but once i stroked everytime i gave it power it done internal belt

il keep a look out for ur MONSTA cant wait 2 c it posted need to see how ur tubs and driveline setup are done coz that is next on list for me (money permitting) hahah, also need to know if it will void engineering etc

an update few pics i took last w/e with a new cam i got


http://www.vnssclub.com/signaturepics/2008_0913SATURDAY0027.jpg



http://www.vnssclub.com/signaturepics/2008_0913SATURDAY0040.jpg



http://www.vnssclub.com/signaturepics/2008_0913SATURDAY0043.jpg



http://www.vnssclub.com/signaturepics/2008_0913SATURDAY0044.jpg



http://www.vnssclub.com/signaturepics/2008_0913SATURDAY0048.jpg



http://www.vnssclub.com/signaturepics/16.jpg


http://www.vnssclub.com/signaturepics/2008_0913SATURDAY0063.jpg



http://www.vnssclub.com/signaturepics/2008_0913SATURDAY0081.jpg



http://www.vnssclub.com/signaturepics/2008_0913SATURDAY0187.jpg




http://www.vnssclub.com/signaturepics/2008_0913SATURDAY0189.jpg

[charade_16v]

Awesome VN u got there mate, very tasteful.
VN's would have to be my all time fave model of commo.
keep the pics coming, looks great.

MM

[NEMESIS]

Please take it to chapel st on a friday night with " FUKEPA" still in your
window lol

it wont be the epa getting fucked i assure you :P

Tuff car though mate.

[djlilpete]

lol @ axi and FUKEPA plates hahaha bro pm me i need to speek to u about those plates.

[SSN8R]

Awesome VN u got there mate, very tasteful.
VN's would have to be my all time fave model of commo.
keep the pics coming, looks great.

MM

cheers bro apprecite the comments :D

Please take it to chapel st on a friday night with " FUKEPA" still in your
window lol

it wont be the epa getting fucked i assure you :P

Tuff car though mate.

haha cheers..chapel st..yeh i will head down there soon...lifes too short to give things a miss. plus epa is a free, government funded inspection and a d-i-y changeover process :p


lol @ axi and FUKEPA plates hahaha bro pm me i need to speek to u about those plates.

thanks man pm me lan lol. if u wana say something about the plates just pass us a pm.

[[BYEPSI]]

lol at the FUKEPA plates on the dash, did'nt this cop a massive epa a few weeks back, could'nt even drive it home had to be towed?

[SSN8R]

yeh got epa'd by an epa officer this time, pulled over on side of road conducted tests on the spot it was fun :) i was allowed to drive it home

went back and passed all that shit at mcleod the week after...they get easier every time i go there


i made a new video on the weekend YouTube - my vn ss

[ImpulseWRX]

Thats looking hot, I really dig cubes these days

[SSN8R]

Thanks dude
yeah im happy i went the bigger cube, it was worth it, and fun. worth the spend..

further updates. i just bought a t56 6 speed gearbox with full hydraulic conversion setup, with custom clutch

before i put it on il be upgrading to 3.9 lsd
then respraying engine bay, neaten wiring, polishing, chroming engine bay components, twin core alloy race radiator, suspension, and tyres, twin 3" exhaust system

hopefuly have the car ready for the track early next year

[BLN304]

Hey mate, I had a t56 behind my centrifugally blown VS, as you may remember. Had 3.08's then 3.45's then 4.11's then 3.9's and finally 3.7's and must say the 3.7's were the perfect gear for this type of setup. of course you want the car to be the way you want it but just thought id let you know what gear i found to be the best for me. Also my t56 was from a vr-vs, they have different ratios to the ones found behind ls1's so if if yours is the same, i'd go 3.7's.

[SSN8R]

ey bro yeah i remember you had a t56 behind your vs, did you end up running your car with the 3.7's?? yours made 11's when i last saw but which diff you using at the time??

did you run the car with any of the other diffs ratios??

i ahve 3.45's now so yeah i will probably get 3.7's then, either that or 3.9 but will definately have a look at the 3.7 now that you mention it mate thanks for the advice bro

[BLN304]

My car went fastest with 3.7's
I also raced with 4.1's and 3.9's
the 3.9's may work on your car moreso than on my old one as it may rev harder, i used to spin mine to 6000 and with 3.9's and 4.11's i had to use 5th gear at the track, which is bad for the box and your time.

[PIGTOY]

nice work bro
i still like VL's better but this is a beast
all you need now is a big exhaust and a system lol
can you show us pics of inside?

[SSN8R]

ey thanx dude yeah getting a twin 3" setup exhaust soon should sound nice :)
running it straight through

inside pic

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2416/oilgauge2tj1.jpg

[NEMESIS]

I remember a certain tuners red vn grpa made mid 500rwkw at the time and with slix on the thing and manual the lemon only reeled in a 11.7 at some very sub standard mph aswell

Its all to do with the setup, the combination, and really the driver :)

Dyno queens.

Clearly it wasnt making that sort of power if the mile was ,well
junk.
In a car like that with that sorta of power it would have to hit around
140 odd mph no sweat.
I dont care if the person cant get the time but the mph
shows true horsepower output.
Dynos should only be used as tuning tools,not bragging rights.

My freinds vl a while back,we took it street spec,no semi slicks or
anything,full radials an 1st pass was a 15.3 at 118 mph. (lots of wheelspin)
an he eventually done a 11.4 at 123mph. That mph is good for a high
ten.
Like you said,its all about the setup.
An the dyno number,3ookw atw.

[SSN8R]

500rwkw + manual he would have been struggling for traction.
it was standard suspension too. and standard gearbox and diff.
if he mini tubbed it, with the propper suspension and the works it would see 9's anyday..traction permitting

oh, his 9 second n/a capri gets my vote anyday but :)

[PIGTOY]

you leaving the paint like that ?
haha id go all out light green

[prostreetrules]

Man thats hot!!!

[SSN8R]

thans

pigtoy, yeah leaving the paint like that, i think vn ss look best in atlas grey, if anything i might change the wheels next year and go for a nice set of 20s or even bigger once the driveline is done..oh shit cant forget the brakes :)

yeah i know the lime green thingy would be nuts, but then i would have to change the interior too and even leather it over into lime green...i can see the concept but it would look fuckin sik..

[PIGTOY]

yeh man even if it was a un-common colour, glossy tho would look hectic. thats just my opinion. how much have you put into this car? $$$ wise

[rajab2004]

love the engine bay mate

[SSN8R]

yeh man even if it was a un-common colour, glossy tho would look hectic. thats just my opinion. how much have you put into this car? $$$ wise

yeah it would look sik, maybe one day if i go for a full custom respray i will consider some sik colour like that hehe

heaps spent on it mate cant remember right now and i would have to count the receipts i have in record. over 10-15k easy just in engine bay. and that's still not finnished..:(

love the engine bay mate

thanx bro :)

[NEMESIS]

Nah man.
Leave it atlas grey.

Jap cars look good with wild body kits an custom colours,
I think commodores are best left alone in that department...

[PIGTOY]

nah it wrecks the car lol.. its wayyy 2 common.. you want to go for something different.

[NEMESIS]

nah it wrecks the car lol.. its wayyy 2 common.. you want to go for something different.

Yeh you keep your wrx pink.

[wnarun]

The ss looks the best in it's own atlas grey colour... no other colour would suit it better in my opinion! Looks tuff!

[PIGTOY]

Yeh you keep your wrx pink.

mate i dont give a shit what you think
its my baby not yours :)

[blownmustang]

mate i dont give a shit what you think
its my baby not yours :)

hang on buddy...

didnt you start a thread bitching and moaning to us about not passing your p's test like 4 times... your on red p's right????... well the wrx in your avatar has green p's on it... i dont think its yours.... you better come up with one hell of an excuse to make us belive you:o

[VL Turbs]

wow very nice ssn8r nice power too the intercooler looks hot you have done heaps of goodies to it

[SSN8R]

The ss looks the best in it's own atlas grey colour... no other colour would suit it better in my opinion! Looks tuff!

yeah i agree. gota just keep it at that i :D i seen a lime orange vn ss ages ago in some pictures cant remember where, looed juicey n stuff, it was a big time eye catcher but it kinda lost it's tuff look, but still looked sik

wow very nice ssn8r nice power too the intercooler looks hot you have done heaps of goodies to it

ey thanks dude..haha yeh the intercooler has it's touch. cheers :)

[NEMESIS]

mate i dont give a shit what you think
its my baby not yours :)


Hahahah, thats right!
Because if it was MY baby,i wouldve aborted it.