View Full Version : rajab does it again
turbo mike
10-08-07, 07:49 PM
well done to allen ,billy,and ben 8.26 @ 164
blinkyyy
10-08-07, 07:55 PM
congts on da run rajab's , 7's around da corner :D:D
PURE BLOND
10-08-07, 07:57 PM
When They Run That
PURE BLOND
10-08-07, 07:59 PM
And What Light Did They Cut?
turbo mike
10-08-07, 08:04 PM
tonight first run of the trailer
turbo mike
10-08-07, 08:05 PM
dont know yet waiting on bill to come back to me with time slip details
PURE BLOND
10-08-07, 08:06 PM
R U On Site Turbo Mike?
turbo mike
10-08-07, 08:07 PM
no at home with a beer and phone
turbo mike
10-08-07, 08:09 PM
just in bill just called 8.0
PURE BLOND
10-08-07, 08:12 PM
Reaction Time Or Et?
turbo mike
10-08-07, 08:19 PM
8.087 @267klm
PURE BLOND
10-08-07, 08:45 PM
Rajabs First 7 Coming Soon
Congrats to the RRD team ;)
Car ran very straight and stuck really well, launched like a bullet.
Few quick RB's out tonight. A couple of Skylines in the low 11s too and a few other VL's in the 10s who I think got escorted out for safety concerns with a red R31 that ran 10.0 :p
Lowey's BT1 also ran an 8.96 at 154mph and 8.94 at 155mph.
Well done to all.
I took some video of it tonight, looked VERY quick!, well done. Should be on fullBOOST shortly.
The Gronk
10-08-07, 11:01 PM
well done to all.
good to see a couple of victorias fastest vl's racing again!
im not really a fan of the Rajab race car, but congrats to the Rajab team, BRING ON THE 7'S.
PURE BLOND
11-08-07, 06:21 AM
Im Stilll Curious As To What Reaction Time. 7's Would Be Great To See But Really Its Boring If The Car Spools Up For 10 Secs And Then Takes Off. Drag Racing Is About Who Gets To The Other End First. No Good If A Big Horse Power Car Gets Beaten By A Shit Box Cause It Cant Take Off Quick. Really Should We Be Saying That It's An 8 Sec Car When Its Not An Honest Run. Just A Thought.
Go to the track and see for yourself :rolleyes:
jigawatt
11-08-07, 08:48 AM
Im Stilll Curious As To What Reaction Time. 7's Would Be Great To See But Really Its Boring If The Car Spools Up For 10 Secs And Then Takes Off. Drag Racing Is About Who Gets To The Other End First. No Good If A Big Horse Power Car Gets Beaten By A Shit Box Cause It Cant Take Off Quick. Really Should We Be Saying That It's An 8 Sec Car When Its Not An Honest Run. Just A Thought.
Car is setup for competition racing, reached the semi finals at the 2007 Toyo Tyres Summer Slam. when they go racing on friday nights its more about testing changes which they make and race the clock not the guy next to them.
well done to Ben for keeping hsi foot in it - car did move around at half track. bring on the 7's boys!
PURE BLOND
11-08-07, 08:48 AM
clever answer tool. not allways possible.
yogi351
11-08-07, 08:51 AM
Im Stilll Curious As To What Reaction Time. 7's Would Be Great To See But Really Its Boring If The Car Spools Up For 10 Secs And Then Takes Off. Drag Racing Is About Who Gets To The Other End First. No Good If A Big Horse Power Car Gets Beaten By A Shit Box Cause It Cant Take Off Quick. Really Should We Be Saying That It's An 8 Sec Car When Its Not An Honest Run. Just A Thought.
Reaction time has nothing to do with the run.... They could sit there for 20 seconds, the time doesnt start until the tyre moves from the startline.
It's only a street meet, if they were racing then the driver would worry about reaction time, And from what i remember this car gets up on boost pretty quick, running a 2-step limiter......:D
jigawatt
11-08-07, 08:53 AM
Reaction time has nothing to do with the run.... They could sit there for 20 seconds, the time doesnt start until the tyre moves from the startline.
It's only a street meet, if they were racing then the driver would worry about reaction time, And from what i remember this car gets up on boost pretty quick, running a 2-step limiter......:D
spot on Adam.
yogi351
11-08-07, 09:01 AM
spot on Adam.
And lock your phone!!!!!!:D
kakimoto
11-08-07, 09:31 AM
i read cam change?
surely this will put major pressure on all the other big name vl workshops to come out and perform strongly especially after repeatedly slagging these guys on numerous forums and making excuses about there car and doubting these guys can run 7s.
by doing this im sure there shut some of the critics up so all the best to you guys and congratulations that is awesome and also another thing to consider is im guessing this car is a good 400 to 500lbs heavier than sammuts 300x due to it being only a 1/2 chasis car compared to there full chromoly car and ther only on c16 compared to methanol so take that off there weight and watch what this puppy could do.
http://www.turbofast.com.au/Drag.html
Well done on the time guy's.. Good luck with the 7's a mighty bloody good effort so far...
megalomaniac
11-08-07, 08:48 PM
surely this will put major pressure on all the other big name vl workshops to come out and perform strongly especially after repeatedly slagging these guys on numerous forums and making excuses about there car and doubting these guys can run 7s.
by doing this im sure there shut some of the critics up so all the best to you guys and congratulations that is awesome and also another thing to consider is im guessing this car is a good 400 to 500lbs heavier than sammuts 300x due to it being only a 1/2 chasis car compared to there full chromoly car and ther only on c16 compared to methanol so take that off there weight and watch what this puppy could do.
http://www.turbofast.com.au/Drag.html
Ive actually read the article on the sammut car on this forum and it says there car weighed 907kg which is 1999lb and ive read on another forum that the rajab car tips the scales at about 1200kg which is 2650lb roughly so if anybody wants to find out what it would do by bringing down the weight out of there car to sammuts level go for it i think bloody impressive and very possible on current horsepower level they have.
JET-086
12-08-07, 05:44 AM
awesome work! congrats!!
grats to the rajabs on the time. shouldnt be long till 7's now..
Ive actually read the article on the sammut car on this forum and it says there car weighed 907kg which is 1999lb and ive read on another forum that the rajab car tips the scales at about 1200kg which is 2650lb roughly so if anybody wants to find out what it would do by bringing down the weight out of there car to sammuts level go for it i think bloody impressive and very possible on current horsepower level they have.
The sammut car ran in group 2 super stock,were the size of engine denotes weight of car,12.3 pounds per cubic inch, no nos and no efi.
ie, 12.3x189cubes = 2324 pounds + driver. If the car weighed 907kg it was a shit load smaller than rb 30.
This car ran competively and won a shit load of meetings where it would run a mimuim of 4 runs per night just to get through round 1 of eliminations. The Sammut car was at least ten years in front of all off us. Give the Sammuts a bit more respect for what they have done.
Don't get me wrong the Rajabs have done really well and I myself would like to beat them!
cheers
show us some footage sum1
top effort to alan, billy an all involved
awsome work bring on the 7s
megalomaniac
13-08-07, 08:33 PM
The sammut car ran in group 2 super stock,were the size of engine denotes weight of car,12.3 pounds per cubic inch, no nos and no efi.
ie, 12.3x189cubes = 2324 pounds + driver. If the car weighed 907kg it was a shit load smaller than rb 30.
This car ran competively and won a shit load of meetings where it would run a mimuim of 4 runs per night just to get through round 1 of eliminations. The Sammut car was at least ten years in front of all off us. Give the Sammuts a bit more respect for what they have done.
Don't get me wrong the Rajabs have done really well and I myself would like to beat them!
cheers
What are you trying to say, that the sammuts car was 2324lb plus say a 80kg (176lb) driver your trying to insinuate there car was weighing 2500lb wet, if you are i would guesstimate that the rajab car would have to be 2900 to 3000lb with driver going by what you say the sammut car weighs then, its only half chassis with steele panels still where as the sammuts wasfull chrommoly and was decked out with carbon fibre and kevlar panels.
Out of curiosity how much does your own car weigh being a full chassis and also take into consideration is yours chrommoly or mild steele.
Also here is the thread on sammuts car have a read and you will see it for yourself.
http://www.fullboost.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=1010&highlight=sammut
megalomaniac
13-08-07, 09:06 PM
Also just found this whilst surfing so i thought i would add it.
http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/v103/vlmuzza/Misc/SammutBros.gif
The Gronk
13-08-07, 09:32 PM
where did you find that, and what did you type in the search engine to find it?
megalomaniac
13-08-07, 11:23 PM
where did you find that, and what did you type in the search engine to find it?
Gronk i just typed in sammut 300zx and it took me to a forum which had this picture so i cut and pasted it.
Just on another note,i also just noticed whilst re-reading through tempes post again that he put down that the sammut car was 189 cubic inches which X 12.3 does work out to be 2324lb but the problem is an RB30 is not 189 cubic inches there only 183 cubic inches which 183 x 12.3 = 2250lb and so im presuming there car was 1999lb without driver.
That means the driver would weigh in at approximatly 113kg or 251lb to make the 2250lb total wet weight with driver which sounds more like it.
I typed that weight and the claimed 895 hp in the calculater on the last page and it came back that a car weighing 2250lb with 895hp would run a 7.920 best and 172.09 mph which is oh so close to there exact time.
[QUOTE=megalomaniac]What are you trying to say, that the sammuts car was 2324lb plus say a 80kg (176lb) driver your trying to insinuate there car was weighing 2500lb wet, if you are i would guesstimate that the rajab car would have to be 2900 to 3000lb with driver going by what you say the sammut car weighs then, its only half chassis with steele panels still where as the sammuts wasfull chrommoly and was decked out with carbon fibre and kevlar panels.
Out of curiosity how much does your own car weigh being a full chassis and also take into consideration is yours chrommoly or mild steele.
I think you missing the point check out the winners record!
My car is steel chassis and full steel pannels with fiberglass front and without weight, can weigh well under 2000pounds,has weight in car to bring up to class weight.
oh and i wish i had a sponsor like that on my car
kakimoto
14-08-07, 10:59 AM
serious how good is the sammut 300zx i would take that over any of the top fuelers or what ever that thing is so good!!!
fullboost
14-08-07, 11:49 AM
http://www.fullboost.com.au/content/racing/drag/2007/calder_070810/calder_070810_136b.jpg
http://www.fullboost.com.au/content/racing/drag/2007/calder_070810/calder_070810_185b.jpg
jigawatt
14-08-07, 12:03 PM
great pics Luke :)
megalomaniac
14-08-07, 03:48 PM
[QUOTE=megalomaniac]What are you trying to say, that the sammuts car was 2324lb plus say a 80kg (176lb) driver your trying to insinuate there car was weighing 2500lb wet, if you are i would guesstimate that the rajab car would have to be 2900 to 3000lb with driver going by what you say the sammut car weighs then, its only half chassis with steele panels still where as the sammuts wasfull chrommoly and was decked out with carbon fibre and kevlar panels.
Out of curiosity how much does your own car weigh being a full chassis and also take into consideration is yours chrommoly or mild steele.
I think you missing the point check out the winners record!
My car is steel chassis and full steel pannels with fiberglass front and without weight, can weigh well under 2000pounds,has weight in car to bring up to class weight.
oh and i wish i had a sponsor like that on my car
See your own car is steele and fibreglass and theres was chrommoly kevlar and carbon fibre,you say yourself your car can go well under 2000lb so whats to say theres wasnt either.
Nobody is taking away what sammuts have acheived but then again it doesnt look like rajab are competing for national titles there plodding along at there own pace competing in a vl turbo thing they all have going with rival vl workshops.
Rajab have accomplished something unbeleivable in such a heavy car which in my opinion would point out to be making more than sammuts much lighter car in the weight to hp stakes and not to mention its all out of there own pocket and there own R&D not coming from a factory backed sponser like nissan who would have thrown bucketloads at that car.
By the way does the class sammuts competed in still exist even as they were competing back then in wild bunch with the likes of victor bray but now they have long moved on and im not sure if there is even people for you to race against should you get up there is there speed.
Why dont you just jump over into the vl turbo class if you think you have what it takes to go head to head with them,take of all the mechanical stuff and go efi and what ever else is needed, your best is 9.1 you say and there are untubbed full steele full street trim road cars doing 8 seconds these days.
Just a thought
PURE BLOND
14-08-07, 07:26 PM
(quote)See your own car is steele and fibreglass and theres was chrommoly kevlar and carbon fibre,you say yourself your car can go well under 2000lb so whats to say theres wasnt either.
i think u would probably find that if thier car (sammuts) had to be a certain weight to run in thier class that the car would be weighed all the time
probs after most runs and definately after runnin a 7. so in that case, if im correct, the car wouldnt have been under 2000lbs. and if it weighed less than that, which would be pretty easy, id think that they would have added weight in it to bring it up to class specs.
if im wrong please tell me
yogi351
14-08-07, 08:43 PM
[QUOTE=temp]
By the way does the class sammuts competed in still exist even as they were competing back then in wild bunch with the likes of victor bray but now they have long moved on and im not sure if there is even people for you to race against should you get up there is there speed.
The class the Sammuts competed in does still exist, and they never competed in Wild Bunch, that was an exhibition class which turned into Top Doorslammer.
There are 2 classes for 6cyl cars to compete in Super Stock, DD/G for manual 6's and DD/GA for the automatics, which the car has to be able to meet class regulations.... See www.andra.com.au and that will tell you class requirements....:D
The class the Sammuts competed in does still exist, and they never competed in Wild Bunch, that was an exhibition class which turned into Top Doorslammer.
There are 2 classes for 6cyl cars to compete in Super Stock, DD/G for manual 6's and DD/GA for the automatics, which the car has to be able to meet class regulations.... See www.andra.com.au and that will tell you class requirements....:D
I just read the andra rules and this is what it says about the classes mentioned by yogi.
DD/G & DD/GA - 340.5 kg/litre (12.30 lb/cubic inch) supercharged, turbocharged or nitrous two valve engines or 365.4kg/litre (13.20 lb/cubic inch) where more than two valves per cylinder are used. Restricted to six cylinders or less.
Also by going by that drag calculater link on the last page using 2250lb weight and sammuts 175 mile per hour it worked out they were making round about 920hp at the flywheel to acheive that mph in a 2250lb car.
I read ages ago, that Sammuts claimed hte car was making 920hp. Have the rules changed in the last 6-7 years? Also remember what parts(or lack of) were available for turbocharging back then.
if there was anything lacking, im sure nissan took care of it.
gotta love open cheque books:)
good work rajabs will the car change to a twin cam once it runs sevens?
justntime
15-08-07, 05:40 PM
We should all appreciate both these cars for what they are now and back then. I remember the Sammut bros being unbeatable back in the day. Would be great to see them back with efi and new hardware. That was extremely well engineered. Lots of test and trial, as has the Rajab bros VL. Would be gd to see Rajabs run a 7.
fullboost
15-08-07, 07:47 PM
VIDEO (http://www.fullboost.com.au/video.php) is now online guys ;)
http://www.fullboost.com.au/content/media/video/calder_070810_turbo.jpg
JET-086
15-08-07, 11:01 PM
Nice job on the footage fullBOOST team. QWIKVL looks awesome consistant 8.9's nice work! As for the rajab race car, looks excellent comes out of the hole nice n strong, 7's are just around the corner congrats. :) wat was the 60ft for the 8.0 pass??
djlilpete
16-08-07, 04:11 AM
nice run guys rajab congrats on the time not long till 7's come along soon the big 5's omg thats awsome power keep up the good work guys.
Well done, I bet my left one a 7 very soon
congrats on the runs, not long till 7's, good luck
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